This is my disapproving face.

[tibicen]

I just heard about Caid.

ETA:
https://www.publicmedievalist.com/sca-swastika/
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/02/07/swastikas-raiments-create-uproar-among-society-creative-anachronism-fans

ETA2:
A little bird sent me this compilation of statements against this:

Middle Kingdom:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2666816180/permalink/10155929036886181/ and
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2666816180/permalink/10155929036876181/
East Kingdom:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/17551346704/permalink/10155262206941705/
Ealdormere:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2261836735/permalink/10154981494596736/?comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22O%22%7D
Caid:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3533625108/permalink/10159798956910109/?hc_location=ufi
and apology #2 from TRM Caid:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3533625108/permalink/10159799055135109/?hc_location=ufi
Lochac: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lochac/permalink/10155873252721677/

The abdication:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3533625108/permalink/10159803362355109/

Outlands:
https://www.facebook.com/KingdomoftheOutlands/posts/786671891526576
An Tir: https://www.facebook.com/KingdomofAnTirSCA/posts/2074541702816417
Northshield:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/kingdomofnorthshield/permalink/1573460069358218/

Comments

[tpau]

oh yeah. this has been... a thing...

[tibicen]

What's the word from people who know them? Is it oblivious idiocy or are they (or is one of them) deliberately dog-whistling?

[tpau]

there has been a lot of crapola. many folks defending them as only wanting authenticity. the former queen has previously been reported saying she wants to take back the old symbols.

there have been a lot of ad homonym attacks from both sides worth of supporters.

[tibicen]

the former queen has previously been reported saying she wants to take back the old symbols.

I'd heard that; but it doesn't actually tell us anything about her motivations.

many folks defending them as only wanting authenticity.

Yes, but are any of those folks folks we trust to know that? I know that's the argument, but I'm wondering if anybody we're in a position to trust is in a position to know if it is true.

(Not that wanting authenticity is a justification. But what I want to know is whether the Society has just had a small rash of idiocy, or an actual infestation of Naziism.)

[tpau]

i dont think we know :(

[tibicen]

:(

[fabrisse]

Living in DC opens up all sorts of interesting vistas on "Nazi" imagery. The Department of Agriculture has an interlocking Greek key pattern forming rows of swastikas (accidental, I think) interspersed with fasces containing axes. (In the Ancient Roman Empire, the fasces only had the axes if they were displayed in conquered territory, within Rome no axes permitted.)

The Lincoln Memorial also has bundles of fasces as the faces of his armrests. They're ax-less, which is good, and they were intended to symbolize his keeping the Union together.

Post World War II, both of these, but particularly the early 1930s Agriculture Building, are at best sub-optimal.

The royalty of Caid don't have that "pre World War II" excuse.